More arguments, more perspectives, more ideas. As it stands this is Phillip Sandifer's blog and he has already asked you to tone it down. What Would You Do? Part four of the just the bits in-between series: a collection of missing scenes taking place between or during each episode of series 2. the girl in the fireplace. “She who lives in harmony with herself...”: Hire Us! Sport, sport, masculine sport, prepares a young man for society... 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The voting system in use at the Hugos (alternative vote, or instant runoff) favours nominees with broad appeal. I don't see it, even between the lines. The Girl In the Fireplace. How do you calculate that?”: The Galileo Seven, I Become Part of Events (The Christmas Invasion), “And you claim these words as your own”: The Conscience of the King, Pop Between Realities, Home in Time for Tea 62 (Battlestar Galactica), “Listen to it...The sound of children playing...”: Miri, Outside the Government 10 (Doctor Who Confidential), “We have an incredible ability to make people less than us”: Dagger of the Mind, I Wasn't The One Holding a Gun (Bad Wolf)/A Fighting Hand (Parting of the Ways). Seriously--just think about it. The Doctor leaves in the TARDIS. Where angels fear to tread. But the last thing I want is for threads to get derailed by the ugly business of moderation. Falling for Dr. Who: The Girl in the Fireplace by Catherine Eaton. Take Captain Jack out of Series 1-4 and is it really signficantly less heteronormative than Moffat's seasons? The Preservation Was a Success?! "I would, of course, disagree. (The Last War in Albion Book Two Part Nineteen: Before Watchmen: Dr. Manhattan), “The city's ripped backside”: The Passenger, Solid Dick 1½, or 'Did Mary Whitehouse Have a Point? It seems a perfectly reasonable creative decision. Doctor Who: School Reunion The Girl In The Fireplace TV Club. @Triturus: I think the thing that troubles me comes in with the fairytale aspect (Not that I dislike the fairytale aspect per se, quite the opposite): there are times where it feels very much like there is an undercurrent of "Yes, it is fine for a girl to go and have adventures (In this, Moffat elevates himself for me above accusations of simple outright misogyny), but some day the fairy tale has to end, and you have to grow up and be a productive member of society; Alice goes home and does her lessons; Christopher Robin goes off to school and doesn't have time to spend doing nothing any more; Wendy leaves Never-Neverland (Though Peter does come back years later and marries her daughter); The Pevensie children stumble across a lamp post and turn back into children (Such a shame Lewis never wrote a sequel to that. AM EXTERMINATED! In the episode, repair androids from a spaceship from the 51st century create time windows to stalk Madame de Pompadour Sophia Myles throughout her life. I certainly think Moffat's gender politics leave much to be desired. 'Moffat and RTD have always been of the school of thought that each regeneration is a "new man"'Hmm, I'm not sure about that, especially with regard to Moffat. Ballard, William S. Burroughs), One Day, I Shall Come Back (The Girl in the Fireplace), “DARKSEID IS MY WILL!” The Alternative Factor, Till We Meet Again, Sarah (School Reunion), “The best techniques are passed on by the survivors...”: Arena, Pop Between Realities, Home in Time for Tea 64 (No Angels), “It is said that the first sport, the original main event that thrilled the masses, considered the greatest spectacle of all, was the fight.”: The Squire of Gothos, To Leap From One Universe To Another, Unafraid! As Phil said, the Hugo Awards are *extremely* establishment. Posting twice in one day? Don't scream. A Brief History Of Time Travel The Girl In The Fireplace. "The Girl in the Fireplace" was planned as the second episode of the 2006 series, however when Davies realised how experimental it had become in Moffats hands, he decided to move it to fourth in the running order between "School Reunion" and "Rise of the Cybermen". The Doctor Who Lockdown rewatches keep coming thick and fast. He's never going to do the same job as RTD, just by virtue of the fact that a Straight White Bloke is just not going to be able to tap into the same experiences as a Gay or Transgendered person. So Much Darkness. 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The Girl in the Fireplace is the fourth episode of the second series of the British science fiction television series Doctor Who. I'd be more inclined to assign moffat (and Whitaker, and Holmes for that matter) to the category of "It's more complicated than 'one man eleven faces' or 'eleven different men'"(Dicks, I agree, is straightforwardly "eleven faces". (personally, I use 'won a Hugo award!' In “The Eleventh Hour” Amelia is competent as hell. The Girl in the Fireplace what an amazing episode! I might suppose RTD's position as being something like "The character arc of an incarnation of the Doctor is the trip from being a new face on the same man to being a different and unique man"), Fair points - the Doctor's behaviour at the start of 'Power' is deliberately unsettling for the audience and seems designed to keep them (and Ben and Polly) guessing, yes. Even now, standing on the edge. I don't really know any of the behind the scenes story there. If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity. (The one time these sort of fan theories actually seemed to affect the production - in 20th century Who, at least - was under JNT and Saward, probably via Ian Levine. “And I think it's gonna be a long, long time/'Till touchdown brings me 'round again to find...”: No Need to Listen to the Bad Guys. Edited 28/4/2013. River as well. It received an Appreciation Index of 84, considered "excellent". The truth exists outside of humanity, It has to, or it wouldn't be the truth.I don't care about finding the truth. The Doctor, however, was not reading his letter. (The only time it won was the year before Doctor Who became eligible.) The Search for Eden), “A Voiceless Song”: Chain of Command, Part I, Weird Kitties: Best Dramatic Presentation (Longform) Open Thread, And do you know what she said? Rewatch organizer Emily Cook Следующая Войти Настройки. Key point: "The Lodger". Its very understated, very beautifully done, but its nonetheless a Time Lord falling in love and Roses reaction to him falling in love with someone else." With David Tennant, Billie Piper, Noel Clarke Written by Steven Moffat Directed by Euros Lyn Executive Producers: Russell T Davies, Julie Gardner. Okay, here's what I don't get...where does all the wife and mother stuff come from? Sorry if I overstepped myself Doctor S.On Topic: I think one of the things that get's overlooked about Moffat is he does try to change things. It just proves to me that Robert Holmes wrote ANYBODY on that show better than anyone else, and, that he may have been almost the only one who ever wrote the "real" Doctor during Peter Davison's entire 3 years on the show. The Time Scales presents 159 community ratings and 24 reviews for Doctor Who 2.4 The Girl in the Fireplace. Is it the warmth created like a sun that came and shone upon your body with the intensity of heat? He's not perfect but he is trying. 70% of Moffat-era episodes fail. Streaming Update (and a Brief Treatise on Crap Home Video Standards), Be afraid of stories, be afraid of storytellers. It would be rad if we could get all of the Misogynist Moffat arguments out of the way before we actually reach his era, but I'm not holding my breath. 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And, I think, because one never really discovers girls. That was...ugh. 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Or actually, I'd at least say it's like comparing apples and oranges. Duty Officer, Please: The Doctors Revisited (Jon Pertwee), “Never go to war. How DARE you call him a misogynist when he didn't even -- (what's the sexism equivalent of killing Medgar Evers); he's way less sexist than (insert notable misogynist here), so STFU. The Girl in the Fireplace is the fourth episode of the second series of the British science fiction television series Doctor Who. This rather suggests to me that it isn't that he thinks that a person without a Y chromosome is incomplete until babies, but that any person, with or without a Y chromosome, is incomplete unless they have a family. (This sounds more serious than I intended.). Postmodern liberalism embraces it because it believes that given a sufficient critical mass of views the worst views will wither and die, and that this is about the best you can hope for in terms of social progress. With concepts like auteur theory and "art reflects life," we psychoanalyze too much.Sure, Moffat discussed how DW has been a major impact on his life and how he's fulfilling a childhood dream working on the series. Neill Gorton of Millennium Effects designed the androids and they were constructed by Richard Darwen and Gustav Hoegan. Massacres are horrifying. Directed by Euros Lyn. Beautiful Bodyguards are a Better Deal, My Multi-Dimensional Enfolded Realities Concept (The Last War in Albion Part 51: Len Wein's Phonecall, Rhizome), “So high I cannot feel the fire”: Gotta Do It! Sometime he calls her old girl, sometimes she's sexy...pet names for things just kind of develop. He discovers a clockwork service android disguised in 18th-century clothing hiding in Reinettes bedroom, and saves Reinette from it. While Moffat was creating the clockwork automata he first decided to hide their faces with wigs, but when producer Phil Collinson told him this would severely limit camera angles, and that it could appear comical, the androids were given carnival masks to wear. Guest Post: Jordan Peterson - Bumbling Cult Leader or Delightful Satire? The Tenth Doctor, Rose, and Mickey explore a derelict spaceship in the 51st century. Its all too rare that you can watch a Doctor Who story and find absolutely nothing negative to say about it, but The Girl In The Fireplace is one. 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We’ve never seen that before.But at the same time, these strong, competent women have their strenght and competence defined primarily in terms of men: Clara is so important because she's the one who saves The Doctor; Amy is competent and important, but the point of it is that it gives her the power to save the Doctor (and to give birth to the Doctor's wife); River is herself very deliberately defined in terms of the Doctor: she was literally created to be a foil for the Doctor, and her awesomeness is defined almost exclusively in terms of her relationship with The Doctor (When we first meet River, it's implied that she's got a substantial reputation in her own right, but by now, it appears that the arc of her life is "The day she gets her degree, she's framed for murdering the Doctor, spends decades in prison where pretty much all she does of note is to slip out whenever the Doctor needs her, then bugger off to her appointment with death". 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